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Postby David Whyld » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:30 pm

Has anyone here played this game?

I'm currently having a run through it... and really enjoying it, although I can understand the moralists' viewpoint in that it probably incites people towards violence. In my first ten minutes of play, I ran over an old woman in my car, reversed over her, then - just to see if the game would let me do it - jumped out and pummelled her a few times with a club I'd taken off someone I'd previously beaten up. Then an ambulance showed up and I bashed the ambulance men over the head with my club. Then the cops showed up and I killed one of them before the other one shot me dead.

Tremendous fun. Almost as much fun as driving along the sidewalk and watching the pedestrians go bouncing off the roof of the car.
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Postby NObodyNOWHERE » Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:56 pm

I found the GTA games fun only as time-wasters. It's undeniably entertaining to run around car-jacking and indulging in random acts of violence, but that can only last for so long. I find the formal game elements extremely boring in GTA. The missions are just SO tedious after a little while. It's the same old tired fetch quests, escort missions, and so on repeated ad nauseum (these are 20+ year old cliches in the adventure game genre, but for some reason people consider them acceptable in this game).

Overall, I think it has some nice things going for it, specifically the open-ended gameplay elements, but the on-rails story and missions just kill it for me.
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Postby David Whyld » Sun Oct 23, 2005 9:08 pm

I've only been playing the game for a few days so far so maybe my enthusiasm for it will wane after a while. Already I'm beginning to get annoyed off at the fact that you can only save at your hideout and not during a mission. Quite a few times now I've got really close to completing a mission, then messed it up at the last moment and had to restart from the beginning.

But you've got to love a game where you can beat up a thug, pinch his baseball bat, beat up a cop with the baseball bat, pinch his gun... and go on a killing spree with it. And then kill yourself by crashing your car into the side of the police station. I can just imagine some stressed-with-the-world teens coming across this game and thinking they'd gone to heaven. "Dude! Like I just like ran over this cop's head wiv me car! It was like awesome!" :p
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Postby MileStyle » Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:07 am

I usually find my interest in these games wanes after a few weeks. I rarely play through the missions, preferring to go on spree kills or get involved in car chases or, my favourite, drag someone out of a car, pull out a gun, and execute them there in the street.

Grand Theft Auto 3 was a revelation when it appeared a few years ago (I can't believe you are only playing it now!) featuring Liberty City, the first city from the original Grand Theft Auto. Driving on the subway was excellent fun as was sniping from the top of the carpark and then shooting down cop helicopters whenever they arrived with the rocket launcher.

Grand Theft Auto: Vice City was much improved; especially by the licensed soundtrack over commissioned music and, of course, my new chainsaw. Excitement soon waned, however.

Grant Theft Auto: San Andreas was excellent when that came out. It was three times, I believe, the size of Vice City and the scope was incredible, and it introduced loads of new things including girlfriends, weight control, and drive by shootings.

Grand Theft Auto 4, when it arrives, will be a revelation, but I can't help think it will last a few weeks before being forgotten about by myself.

I liked Manhunt when it came out; of course I'm a sadist and enjoy killing random people so that was fun, if more linear than usual.
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Postby Mystery » Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:53 pm

I haven't played it for a while, got bored with it. I used to pick a hilltop with some shrubs and trees and use the sniper rifle to pick people off- go grab their loot, put in the cheats to get the cops off my tail, and do it all over again. I also found it oddly entertaining to burn people to a crisp. :p
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Postby David Whyld » Wed Oct 26, 2005 6:01 pm

Why am I only playing it now? Because I tend to avoid all the new titles that get rave reviews until the price of them has dropped to something a bit more affordable. I blew £35 on the over-marketed hype that was Half Life 2 and apart from a few mildly interesting bits with a speedboat and whacking some soldiers with a crowbar, found it pretty tedious. Great graphics... but couldn't say I cared for the rest of it. I gave up with it before the end and can't imagine playing it again because there was a lot of it that was downright tedious.

I'm still enjoying Grand Theft Auto though. Finally managed to complete 'The Fuzz Ball' mission for Luigi on the umpteenth attempt. I failed it the first time because I was being pursued by half a dozen police cars at the time and this made stopping to pick up hookers a bit of a chore; failed the second time because my driving skills weren't up to much and I accidentally ran over someone I was trying to give a ride to (hardly my fault, the silly cow [/I]could[I] have jumped out of the way when I mounted the sidewalk); failed the third time by crashing into a police car right outside the place I was delivering the hookers to and ended up killing myself and everyone in the car; failed lots more times, too.

I don't know whether the game is going to keep my interest long enough to finish it, but it's very good so far. I might even go and get Vice City when I'm done with it.

My overall opinion of the game: if you fancy running over an old lady in a stolen car then jumping out and battering her with a baseball bat, shooting at cops, ramming gang members into a wall and then killing yourself by crashing into the sea over the end of a pier - and all without leaving the comfort of your own home - then this is the game for you. :p

of course I'm a sadist and enjoy killing random people so that was fun


Enough of your real life hobbies. What do you like in games? ;/
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Postby MileStyle » Thu Oct 27, 2005 8:19 am

Once you've completed the game there's a fun cheat you can put on. Search and you'll find it. It's arms every citizen with weapons and causes citywide riots.

Try and play the game like that; trying to chase Chunky Lee Hong, or whatever his name was, down a street when an old granny appears out of nowhere with a rocket launcher shoots you while some tramp is gunning down your target with an uzi, and random punters in the street are shooting at each other; more are falling over because there's someone sniping. Excellent fun, if impossible.
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Postby David Whyld » Thu Oct 27, 2005 5:47 pm

I've already seen the cheats for the game but have so far resisted the urge to try them. Once I finish it fair and square - or get bored - then it's time to arm the citizens and see about my killing spree.
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Postby Lumin » Fri Nov 04, 2005 5:31 pm

I'm a bargain bin gamer myself so I've only recently gotten the game too. (Though I've played it before at a friend's house.)

It is a lot of fun, though rarely bother with the missions - I just like to cruise around and see what kind of mayhem I can cause.

On the whole it's a great way to kill a little time, but like a lot of these kinds of games, after awhile you start to notice that there's not a whole lot of content.

Then again it may just be me. I'm a strategy and RPG person (and an interactive fiction person, of course...), and more action-oriented games always bore me after awhile. IIRC, not long after I bought GTA I got an urge to install an old RPG, Arcanum, again and rolled up a pacifist elven diplomat. :D

I'm currently having a run through it... and really enjoying it, although I can understand the moralists' viewpoint in that it probably incites people towards violence.


Meh. In my experience the only people who raise a big fuss about violent games are hate-mongering attention-whores like Jack Thompson and parents who are too stupid and neglectful to read the clearly labeled warnings. They take a game that says "MATURE - 17 and older" off the shelf, carry it to the register, pay for it, take it home and hand it to their kid, and then they want to act all outraged about the evil media corrupting their children.




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Postby David Whyld » Fri Nov 04, 2005 6:51 pm

I meant in the sense that I was able to beat, maim and kill completely innocent people with a baseball bat and the game just let me do it. Thrilling in a sick and twisted kind of way. I'm sure Rockstar would have included the option to rape as well if they thought they could get away with it.
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Postby red assassin » Fri Nov 04, 2005 7:05 pm

David, try garry's mod for Half-Life 2. Great fun - much better than HL2 itself. From creating giant people-catapults to melon racing to playing through the storyline armed with only a barrel on the end of a long rope, you can do pretty much anything. Spawn NPCs and props, mess around with the physics engine. Hours of fun.
As for GTA3, I played it at a friends and decided that there are better fun timewasting games for free. Like RumbleBox.
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Postby David Whyld » Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:46 pm

I might give the Half Life 2 a miss if it's all the same. I don't have it installed on my computer right now and the hassles of installing a game using the #### engine (or is that Steam? I forget) is more than I can bear twice in the same lifetime.
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Postby red assassin » Fri Nov 04, 2005 8:53 pm

Actually Steam's improved a lot now (that's a relative measure - I'd still rather be without it). You're missing out... *sets off to write a Melon Racing ADRIFT game :p *
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Postby David Whyld » Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:00 pm

Grand Theft Auto 3: The Text Adventure

You are on a street corner, minding your own business. Around you are the sights and sounds of the city. Several people wander past on their way to work or play, while vehicles tear down the street on screeching wheels. Do you:

a) Help an old dear across the road.
b) Go and buy a newspaper from the cornershop.
c) Hire a taxi to take you across town.
d) Chat to some of your fellow citizens.
e) Go completely ape#### and massacre the nearest fool with your trusty crowbar.

> e

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Postby red assassin » Fri Nov 04, 2005 9:17 pm

f) Get to the maximum wanted level and steal a tank

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