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Re: Why do you write IF

Postby Lumin » Thu Jan 18, 2018 5:21 pm

Po. Prune wrote:But what consequences would it have for this forum if the authorities discovered that kids could get porn here?


Not a damn thing. A fictional text game can't even legally count as 'porn' even if it's Dora the Explorer Does Dallas With Scooby Doo, that stuff and I'm sure far weirder is literally everywhere. Rotter has AIF mixed in with the downloads on his website, and no one cares about IF to begin with.

On the off chance someone wants to discuss AIF in General, an [AIF] or [ADULT] in the title provides exactly as much safety and deterrent as making a kid claim to be 18. (and I'm pretty sure AIF authors have their owns sites anyway, which are likely more active than this one...in fact pretty sure the most popular and lucrative IF game in all existence is some Inform furry fetish thing...)

Or just go the other direction and say AIF game discussion should be taken elsewhere. It won't really effect the current situation here either way, that board just never gets used anyhow.
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Re: Why do you write IF

Postby P/o Prune » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:37 pm

So at the end it's up to Campbell whether he wants a separate "AIF" section.
I damned well wish he'd get his Scottish butt over here... I'm beginning to feel like the guys at Dunkirk.. Standing in the surf waiting for the boats to come pick them up. :wink:
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Re: Why do you write IF

Postby David Whyld » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:52 pm

Can moderators delete or merge forums? (It's been so long since I was one here I can't remember if they can or not.) If not, then we could be in for a long wait. Campbell last logged onto the forum on 26th December 2017, so it's fair to say he's aware of all the recent discussion about ADRIFT's shaky future, but he hasn't made a single post about it, either to confirm he's still interested in ADRIFT or that he's gone for good. Which is pretty damning in itself. The only other site admin is KFAdrift who hasn't logged in since 2015.

Which is another problem right there. If the people in charge have upped and left without a word, what chance is there of anything ever improving around here? At the very least, they should have given someone else admin privileges before they left.
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Re: Why do you write IF

Postby P/o Prune » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:56 pm

I don't think we can. You have to be an admin for that.
Would you want me to ask Campbell to "promote" me to admin? :wink:
I talk to him once in a while on Facebook, and I'd be willing to give him a shout.
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Re: Why do you write IF

Postby David Whyld » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:04 pm

Sure, it's worth a shot. We definitely need someone in charge who is actually present on the forum.
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Re: Why do you write IF

Postby Lumin » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:35 pm

You know what, if it's not possible to merge or delete boards at all then I propose finally setting fire to this abandoned shack of a forum and moving all ADRIFT discussion to CYS. You'll probably disgruntle some natives so that's always fun and it will save me the terrible burden of having to click the bookmark to come over here twice a week.

Plus I think a few of them still remember David and it has been my goal over there for a very long time now to have a debate thread with more than 400 posts without going for the low hanging fruit of 'what is gender'. Maybe grumpy old IF authors vs CYOA teens will finally be the subject to do it. (Although it's entirely possible everyone will just join hands to hate on Twine and Choice of Games...)
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Re: Why do you write IF

Postby R2T1 » Fri Jan 19, 2018 3:03 am

Firstly to reply to the original topic - I don't write IF as I am not a writer. I'm a reader. I have proof read a few games for people in the past and even play tested some. Currently testing an Android game, although, while it is available on the Play Store, the author has currently dropped out as I think I have overloaded him. The game is Betsy Sykes Mysteries - What's up at The Docks for those that may be interested.

My main interest is converting all the old type-in adventures found in magazines back in the 1980's. (I still have quite a few lying around.) Most are in BASIC designed for various computers of the era(Spectrum, Commodore, TRS80, Acorn and others). So, not only am I translating the BASIC, but attempting to bring the functionality into more modern IF. I have done this in Inform6 when I first came across the language mentioned in a British magazine - PC Plus back around 1999/2000. As well as getting them to work as originally designed, I am also enhancing the descriptions of Locations & Objects as I go.
I also tried some of the earlier versions of Quest, but since Alex left the scene, my interest there has waned considerably, although I still check out what they call Forums from time to time.
Then I moved on to Adrift v5 and have found it to be comprehensive enough for me to convert these listings. I did try v3.9 & v4 earlier but didn't have enough time to really get to grips with them then.
I recently loaded up TADS but have yet to have a proper play with it.
I have come from a self-taught learning background where my employer bought the software and expected us to use it to do everything that the vendors claimed it could because it looked great.

Since retiring a couple of years ago and thinking there would be plenty of time to "get my teeth into these", I didn't take into account my wife who saw it as an opportunity to travel and use me as a taxi service to get to shops that are further afield.

As for the second part of this topic, I would hate to see the Adrift forum moved to somewhere else to disappear amongst the overwhelming plethora of platforms that are now around. (I must admit that I don't know what CYS is for one.)
I would back Po Prune attempting to contact Campbell and obtain Admin rights to this forum at least if not the main site as well so that we could change it to suit current requirements.
As for the AIF board, I wasn't aware that it even existed until I read this post. I went in and fiddled with my profile. (added the day of the month for my birthday and it suddenly appeared) After I deleted it again, it is still showing. Weird that it should require the day to figure out how old I am. The year alone should be all that is required.

Anyway, I look forward to see what becomes of Adrift and the Forum. Also, hopefully Saabie's multi-runner will prove to be a winner too.
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Re: Why do you write IF

Postby David Whyld » Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:57 pm

Lumin wrote:You know what, if it's not possible to merge or delete boards at all then I propose finally setting fire to this abandoned shack of a forum and moving all ADRIFT discussion to CYS. You'll probably disgruntle some natives so that's always fun and it will save me the terrible burden of having to click the bookmark to come over here twice a week.

Plus I think a few of them still remember David and it has been my goal over there for a very long time now to have a debate thread with more than 400 posts without going for the low hanging fruit of 'what is gender'. Maybe grumpy old IF authors vs CYOA teens will finally be the subject to do it. (Although it's entirely possible everyone will just join hands to hate on Twine and Choice of Games...)


They remember me? I wasn't active on that site for long and it was years ago. I don't remember posting much at all so I'd be surprised if anyone over there remembers me.

R2T1 wrote:As for the second part of this topic, I would hate to see the Adrift forum moved to somewhere else to disappear amongst the overwhelming plethora of platforms that are now around. (I must admit that I don't know what CYS is for one.)


I'd hate to see it go away as well. There's history here. A great deal of it. I've been a member of this forum on and off for the past 15 years and it'd be a crying shame if it all disappeared one day.

CYS = Choose Your Story. http://chooseyourstory.com/ It's a site for choose your own adventure style game, which I'm certainly fond of but I prefer text adventures.
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Re: Why do you write IF

Postby P/o Prune » Fri Jan 19, 2018 4:40 pm

Just to let you know. I wrote Campbell on FB and asked if would min "promoting" me to Admin.
Now it's up to him, I guess. :angel:
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Re: Why do you write IF

Postby Lumin » Sat Jan 20, 2018 1:00 am

David Whyld wrote:I'd hate to see it go away as well. There's history here. A great deal of it. I've been a member of this forum on and off for the past 15 years and it'd be a crying shame if it all disappeared one day.


I don't think the forum or site just going poof one day is a realistic thing to worry about, I would assume that if Campbell suddenly decided to stop paying the bills he would inform us in advance, but I admit it's been a worry in the back of my mind now and then, usually when I'm having a random dive through the archives for a bit of reminiscing about the good ol' days. There are a great many silly and serious and stupid threads here I have some fond memories of, featuring a bunch of old members I really liked back in the day and it would be awful to lose them.
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Re: Why do you write IF

Postby rotter » Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:37 am

Lumin wrote:A fictional text game can't even legally count as 'porn' even if it's Dora the Explorer Does Dallas With Scooby Doo, that stuff and I'm sure far weirder is literally everywhere. Rotter has AIF mixed in with the downloads on his website, and no one cares about IF to begin with.


Dora the Explorer, where is the download for that game? I want to play it! But seriously......I always expected to get some complaints about the AIF stuff on my site but never have. As to this forum I can't see that this is the place to have an AIF group of its own. If they have technical questions (about ADRIFT!) they will be no different to any other question asked.

It would be a shame to abandon this forum. One option I suppose would be to beg for a separate group on intfiction.org.
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