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The Sky Is Above Me

Postby David Whyld » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:41 pm

New game that's been uploaded to the main site. Weighs in at a hefty 4.1mb but seems a little... sparse. Is it a joke game or am I simply missing something?

So far, I've seen:

the desert
The sky is above me.

I'm surrounded by a sea of sand.

> x desert
Sorry, I'm not sure which object or character you are trying to examine.

> x sand
Sorry, I'm not sure which object or character you are trying to examine.

> x sea
Sorry, I'm not sure which object or character you are trying to examine.

> x sky
Sorry, I'm not sure which object or character you are trying to examine.


Also it produces an error message when you try to restart the game. Is this a bug in ADRIFT 5 or something about the game itself?
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Re: The Sky Is Above Me

Postby Jin Sane » Mon Sep 03, 2012 6:49 pm

Such beauty has never been written. I must download this at once.
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Re: The Sky Is Above Me

Postby Duncan_B » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:52 pm

That's weird. I was able to get descriptions of the sky, sand, and sun, and to see my inventory and the object I was holding. But those descriptions did not repeat (except for the inventory object). I think maybe these were coded in as non-repeatable tasks with a dependent order of some kind. The goals and interaction need to be much more clear.
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Re: The Sky Is Above Me

Postby Campbell » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:40 am

It's only that size because it's a packaged exe. Most of that is taken up by Runner itself. I do think the game needs a bit more work tho.
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Re: The Sky Is Above Me

Postby Lazzah » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:45 am

David Whyld wrote:New game that's been uploaded to the main site. Weighs in at a hefty 4.1mb but seems a little... sparse. Is it a joke game or am I simply missing something?

So far, I've seen:

the desert
The sky is above me.

I'm surrounded by a sea of sand.

> x desert
Sorry, I'm not sure which object or character you are trying to examine.

> x sand
Sorry, I'm not sure which object or character you are trying to examine.

> x sea
Sorry, I'm not sure which object or character you are trying to examine.

> x sky
Sorry, I'm not sure which object or character you are trying to examine.


Also it produces an error message when you try to restart the game. Is this a bug in ADRIFT 5 or something about the game itself?

The instructions suggest you "ask about" the nouns you see, but if you type (e.g.) ASK ABOUT SAND you get a "PassSingleRestriction" error pop-up.

If you check your inventory it says "I am carrying my heart." I do not think this is meant to be a joke game, just that the author is attempting some sort of "concept". Not my cup of tea, I'm afraid, give me a good old "dungeons 'n' dragons" type game any day!
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Re: The Sky Is Above Me

Postby David Whyld » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:05 pm

Well, I persevered a little further with it. Typing in the name of the items you can see generates a few words of text, so at least that is covered, but nothing very useful comes of it; and like Duncan said, you can only key the commands in once, then you get hit with a generic message. Yes, and asking about nouns gets an error message every single time. Ouch.

Probably best to consign this one to the recycle bin and move on.
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Re: The Sky Is Above Me

Postby P/o Prune » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:32 pm

Sounds like this game is missing a thorough beta testing.
Why do people keep releasing those games?
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Re: The Sky Is Above Me

Postby Duncan_B » Tue Sep 04, 2012 11:39 pm

Po. Prune wrote:Sounds like this game is missing a thorough beta testing. Why do people keep releasing those games?

First-time authors (who still make up the majority of contributions to the ADRIFT library) often feel they don't have the resources or proper community process for beta-testing.

Who releases a perfect first game, anyway?
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Re: The Sky Is Above Me

Postby David Whyld » Wed Sep 05, 2012 5:57 am

My favourite two ADRIFT games - the PK Girl and Unraveling God - were both by first time authors.
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Re: The Sky Is Above Me

Postby P/o Prune » Wed Sep 05, 2012 6:04 am

Duncan_B wrote:
Po. Prune wrote:Sounds like this game is missing a thorough beta testing. Why do people keep releasing those games?

First-time authors (who still make up the majority of contributions to the ADRIFT library) often feel they don't have the resources or proper community process for beta-testing.

Who releases a perfect first game, anyway?

It's not as much a matter of releasing a perfect first game. It's the matter of the author not even trying to get his/her game tested before releasing it. (and I don't mean having friend or family test the game) There are at least three places where authors can request testers; Here, the IntFiction.org, or the third possibility, Game-Testing.org.
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Re: The Sky Is Above Me

Postby David Whyld » Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:06 am

To be honest, I'm not sure even the author tested his own game. It's hard to believe he did and missed the error message popping up every time you try a command he suggested himself.
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Re: The Sky Is Above Me

Postby Campbell » Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:10 am

What is interesting is that, despite all the comments above, the game still doesn't have a single rating.
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Re: The Sky Is Above Me

Postby Driftwood » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:26 pm

Sounds ok to me, just about on par with my adventure writing. Gets straight to the point without having to read paragraphs of unnecessary prose just to perform a single action in the game.

How it should be:-

You see a key

Input: get key

You now have the key.

Input: inventory

You are carrying a key.

Absolutely perfect, no time wasting there.

Joking apart, we all have to start somewhere and we should be glad that there is such an interest in IF gaming to encourage first time writers to have-a-go.
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Re: The Sky Is Above Me

Postby David Whyld » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:03 pm

I wondered a while ago if it might be a good idea to suggest putting a little INFO.txt file in with the ADRIFT download to clue people in to a few things they should watch out for when writing games. In an ideal world it wouldn't be necessary because the people in question would take the time to learn what was needed before releasing their first game, however as we don't live in an ideal world...

Maybe a checklist along the lines of:

> Have you tested your game to make sure it can be finished?

> Can all the items the player sees be examined?

> Have you checked your game for typos and/or grammatical errors?

> Has anyone else tested your game?

The majority of people will probably ignore it and just upload their game with a misspelt title and a game-crashing bug in the first location, but it might help a little.
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Re: The Sky Is Above Me

Postby Driftwood » Wed Sep 05, 2012 3:03 pm

Bad spelling really winds me up. If I find bad spelling and its not a pw protected taf I have to correct it before I can play it.
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